Kozak Talks Podcast
Ми знайомимо вас з українцями, які побудували тут неймовірне життя - підприємцями, професіоналами, громадськими лідерами та відомими українцями.
Їхні подорожі та інсайдерські поради покажуть вам, як боротися з викликами, відкривати можливості та реалізовувати свій потенціал - і все це з повагою до свого українського коріння.
Kozak Talks Podcast
Відкрила музичну школу у центрі Лондона
Приєднуйтесь до нас, щоб простежити за неймовірною подорожжю Стелли з України до Великобританії, де вона побудувала успішну музичну кар'єру як співачка, підприємець і тренер з вокалу.
Дізнайтеся, як Стелла відточувала свій талант, які виклики вона подолала та який унікальний підхід вона застосовує до музичної освіти у своїй лондонській студії.
Ми зануримося в емоційні зв'язки між артистами та їхньою аудиторією, отримаємо поради Стелли для музикантів, які починають свою кар'єру в Лондоні, а також дізнаємося про важливість культурної ідентичності та особистісного зростання.
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Today is episode 43 of the Kozatox podcast, where we do our podcasts with Stalin Lul, who gives us the opportunity to do these podcasts here. I'm very interested in getting to know you. How I got to know you is very wonderful because I go out to one event. I listen to Ukrainians around me and I say Slava, ukraine, they say with a hero, slava. I asked her where she was. She said not far, go with us and you'll find her. I saw a big house, the doors were open. I thought hello, etc. I say to him in Ukrainian and he answers me in English. I say what have you forgotten Ukrainian?
Speaker 2:or what he says no, no, I'm on English.
Speaker 1:So I'm up, I say, okay, where is the girl who has this? I went upstairs, met all the Ukrainians. I haven't seen you yet, Do you remember?
Speaker 2:I was taking photos with you.
Speaker 1:I met you at home, and you said that you live in Ukraine for more than 10 years. You lived there with your husband. Your husband is French, he is French, georgian, german, and you lived in Germany too. I lived there for 10 years.
Speaker 2:And here in Britain I lived for 2,5 years, 2,5 years sorry, I made a mistake.
Speaker 1:But I invited you to the podcast twice that year. The first time I didn't succeed. The second time my phone was stolen. I remember God. I don't know if I knocked it, but it fell out or I took it back. Thank God I took it back because I have a lot of contacts.
Speaker 2:So today is our anniversary? Yes, it is. It's the third time and we've met.
Speaker 1:I know you not only have a school here, but you support Ukrainians. You also support Ukrainians. When I first came to Ukraine, there were a lot of Ukrainians. There were a lot of different nationalities. It's wonderful why? Because Ukrainians not only have to be with Ukrainians, but also know how to interact with them in the British society. And it's great to do it with music, because I know you are an artist. Stella, I want to ask you, tell us a little about yourself. From Ukraine, then you came to Germany, and then from Germany and then to the UK.
Speaker 2:First of all, I always wanted to be a singer. I knew that I would be a singer and I had more of a flow. I really liked English-language, this kind of you know, they don't say it like that, but it's a kind of catchy music, you know. But before that my dream was to study in Kyiv, because I'm from Chernihiv. In Chernihiv I had very cool projects and I graduated from the music school therevodsk to be a conductor. Then I went to Kyiv to study at the Academy of the Arts. It was just a great thing to study there. Then I met one producer in Germany. He was a hip-hop beatmaker.
Speaker 1:Stop, stop, stop. You were in Ukraine. Did you go to Romania?
Speaker 2:My mom lived there. Oh mom, why Did you go to Romania?
Speaker 1:My mom lived there. Aha, mom, that's why you went to Romania and got a job as a producer. Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:In general. You know I loved English music, soul, but I didn't plan to go there. I mean, I had plans to Stay there. Yes, yes, A boy, a boy. I met a producer and I somehow, well, my soul pulled me there and we worked together for a long time, but it didn't work out. I got a very strong, as they say, karmic experience. Then I met my husband, timothy. We started making music, concerts, performing at festivals.
Speaker 1:How did you do it? You were from Ukraine. You went to Munich. Your mother lived there. How did you find all this? How did you do it? Was it easy to do it? Was it easy to enter Ukraine, even to enter the European standard of making music? How is it done? Because now we know, stella, you know, I know, many Ukrainian musicians have come here and want to do it in Britain. How did you do it in Europe? Was it the other way around? Did you know the German language? Did you know the producer? How did you do it?
Speaker 2:I think that some kind of representation of your ideal day played a role, and maybe because I had a picture of Beyonce and Jay-Z somewhere in my head. And it happened. Of course, it wasn't all that simple. I had friends who that they had a mother. Yes, I had support from my mother. But I moved to Ukraine with a language learning program. I officially studied the language, submitted documents to the conservatory. Then I found a Ukrainian university in Munich and it's such a place for Ukrainians. You can go there study, get a diploma and a visa.
Speaker 1:Wow In Germany In Munich. Wow, wow In Germany In Munich.
Speaker 2:Wow, not everyone knows, but it's so simple and so interesting and you come to your own.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:I'm not finished. You know I had a passion.
Speaker 1:Your goal was motivation, right.
Speaker 2:The goal motivation, strength. You know I always say that you need to do music when you can't live without it. You wake up, you have the first pictures, the first ideas. You fall asleep ideas about music, that's it. Music always sounds in your head. Of course, you will find how to earn money.
Speaker 2:I started teaching vocals in Munich. It's also a story. How, why, I don't know. Well, yes, and we had a small studio. I visualized myself then. I didn't know what I was, a small stage for students. I didn't want to be a teacher at all. I didn't want to be a teacher in the center of London. And now I have my own vocal studio in Munich. And this stage, a small stage, and here it is too. Here we have a studio already. Back then I had a small studio without windows, and here we have big windows already, and this supports me. I understand that the focus of the view should be on what is better, because you always want to correct yourself more. I look at the windows and now we have four studios and I think, well, great, so I'm doing everything right.
Speaker 2:I've been teaching vocals for 10 years now. I've been told 20,000 times that this is my calling. Well, calling yes, calling yes, and I've already accepted it. I think, well, yes, calling Because I have my own theme there, here and in Munich. I just endlessly wrote songs, I did beats, then we it was very hard Because Munich it's a city of jazz, a class of classical music, but I didn't see it. You know, it was so cool to do what you like.
Speaker 2:The end of this era came, I saw, when we were already on a big stage performed in Munich with cool musicians and I thought where to go next. And then I saw that we needed to move, and me and my husband he is my producer, pianist, jazz, pop, and he does everything. He taught me to shoot music videos, organize rehearsals and concerts. Well, we are such a cool team and he is a team we sat down and said, yes, berlin, everyone is a great team. And he was like this is a great team. We sat down and we were like Berlin, everyone is going to Berlin, vienna, what else did we? Look at Paris.
Speaker 2:He was from Paris and we understood that there was no place for us. Vienna, vienna, right. We went to Vienna, to Berlin, and we understood that Berlin was not our vibe and we were like, well, if we're already moving then to London, well, new York, la is somehow far away, for me, it's some other planet. And here Europe is still, and you understand, the center, just the center of everything. Music, of the whole Music was born here All over the world.
Speaker 1:So you and your husband decided to come to London and he sent me.
Speaker 2:He's been going for three weeks. When I got out of the plane.
Speaker 1:Tell me God, what is it?
Speaker 2:I was looking for a place to go. I went to the sea. I thought what a thrill. You live in London, it's a big place, just want a center, something like that. Everything is here, I think cool. Then, once 40 minutes you're at the sea, I think, wow, cool sea, I'm swimming. They say it's cold, but I think it's youth. Then I think, yes, jazz bar, I need to go to a jazz bar, I go in and it's like in a movie no, no, stop, stop, stop.
Speaker 2:How did you find all this information Voices in my head say let's go to a jazz bar, and you made Google. Well, of course, if you want something, you have….
Speaker 1:You know where.
Speaker 2:Well, of course, google, youtube, learn something, find something. But it's such a good romantic story from my point of view. And when we moved, before we moved, I worked as a horse A lot Because I understood that when you move you need to rent a studio, rent an apartment. I worked a lot, although it was Corona, and it's not a story of someone getting poor or getting rich. No, it's a story that even in Corona, if you have a goal, intention, you take and do. Well, somehow you take, and there is no such thing. Although I am such a, I am generally such a doubt in life, but if necessary I do.
Speaker 1:Well. But you see, you said that jazz bars are all that. But most people when they get out of the plane they think like this when do I live, when do I work, what am I going to do? You didn't just get out of the plane and thought about jazz bars, you also thought where to get out of the plane find an apartment or a room where I could at least live.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you the truth. I clicked on Google Map, put a dot and wrote home no-transcript. So you live above the studio Pure magic. We were very lucky in this. Of course, we didn't find it right away, but we were looking. We were looking and believing, and there are a lot of areas that need to be solved. You want to go to Kensington or Hackney?
Speaker 1:where it will be better.
Speaker 2:Hackney music parties. Kensington such a very nice area. Yes, yes, and we are in the center of Holborn.
Speaker 1:So, look, you wanted, when you started your studio in Munich, you wanted to start a studio in London as well. Yes, why a studio? Why Didn't you want to go further as an artist, to be an artist?
Speaker 2:Well, I had already taught for many years. Already eight years, I taught and I realized that it came to me. Just my girlfriend, rulada Irina Tsukanova, who lives in America now. She wrote a method. She taught me vocals and we sang with her from the music school in Chernihiv. We wrote songs together. She is a teacher from God and a singer too. She wrote Methodica. She asked me who wanted Methodica for teachers. I came up with this Methodica and carried it. For me, teaching is an investment in myself in the world. People say that I help them a lot, even in the first class, that I work as…. I've been through all this Coaching, nlp In general, for myself, for yourself and the development itself, right?
Speaker 2:Yes, I don't know I think I didn't understand it all, but I wanted to understand how you know from music school all these things when you are a critic of music school and you want to be better. You want to give what they didn't give me. And I went to coaching NLP, to all this development, to talk to students correctly, to understand what they need, to guide them correctly where they need to go, to see problems, highlight them, and I believe that vocals are 50% of psychology. I have a very special approach. I believe that people, all who come to me, I can give them something and I go deep, right, deep, because I have experience. I am an artist, an activist, and I know how it is.
Speaker 2:I was not born in a lay, in a musical family. I had a very long path from Chernihiv to London. It's magic I'm not 20 anymore and I wanted to be 20 when I got here. When I came here, I thought, god, I bought myself a fur coat. I had a pink fur coat at 16, I was in it, and then Germany, then here and there, and different colors, and I came here and saw this pink coat and I started crying. My husband said don't cry, I can buy it for you. I said you don't understand, it's me and that's it. I came back to myself.
Speaker 2:I think that moving to London won't be worse, it will be better. I understood that and we moved, but it wasn't all so smooth. You know such everyday moments. For example, you come and think that there are a lot of Ukrainians I will find myself an SMM, someone to do a repair. There was no one that is in Munich. I give there on Facebook who can do this for me, for payment Immediately. They even send me a WhatsApp. I don't know where they take my number, but they write in WhatsApp. No one reacted here. I think, okay, okay, let's wait, and then not those people. Then everything was like this, like this, and then I realized that studying vocals in Munich and music school in London are different things and I had to feel a bit like a businesswoman. I don't think I became a businesswoman, but in principle the school works for us and I have a lot of ideas about what can be done to make it so cool. We already do jam sessions for hobby musicians. We are doing some meetings in the studio, we are doing concerts Concerts for my students where and you are still doing it.
Speaker 2:What is your opinion on this. I think that it is a very important thing. I think that it is a very important thing. I think that it is a very important thing. I think that it is a very important thing. I think that it is a very important thing. I think that it is a very important thing. I think that it is a very important thing. I think that it is a very important thing. We can shoot a video, take a photo. I want to ask you.
Speaker 1:You did it in Munich, in Romania. You came here, saw different lives, even here in the studio. You may have seen the market. Who else from Ukraine does it here? Maybe you haven't seen it. How do you differ from other studios? There are also British studios here. How do you differ from them? What do you do uniquely when some students come to you to learn vocals, people don't just come to you to learn vocals, because people can learn vocals for a long time, but also people want to. Why do people learn something? They want to show it to someone else. What do you do differently? What do you do differently in your studio? What do you do? Do you give them the opportunity to play music I don't know, in a pub or somewhere or in some small jazz club? Do you make a deal with the jazz club? Do you say look, we want some artists to play. At least tonight I can ask you to play? What do you do? Are there any privileges that you have? What do you do?
Speaker 2:I moved. That's it. There were so many things with the move that I didn't look Neither competitors nor what being done here, honestly, and when the first students came to me and said we were waiting for you, I was just shocked we don't have a school in the center of London. I thought, well, where else to open a school if not in the center? So in Ukrainian. Where else to open a school If not in the center of London? So in the outskirts? It means that our location is very good. Yes, we found it. In the center of London there is no school. People say that I don't know, there are not many such teachers who teach for us. They also told me. They also tell me that I have a very nice, very comfortable studio. It's like at home. There are a lot of flowers, crystals, some smells. I did it for myself and for people, just from the bottom of my heart. Each of our studios has a color.
Speaker 2:Yellow red, mine is green, pink, orange. We just like it. I didn't expect it, because I can't work until the white wall. Well, it's like a childhood trauma. You know, school and hospital, hospital. Well, for me it's like that. I mean, I've been to hospitals and hospitals, hospitals. Well, that's how it is for me.
Speaker 2:People say that we have such a very calm atmosphere, creative, that is. If something is needed, the team breaks down already, plays the ukulele, then they record a piano, for example, drums and vocals, that is. You can come to us and learn such a base. What we don't do, what we don't do A regular program. If you go to courses, there is a program. I don't have a program. I have a lot of instruments and I lead a person where she wants, where her path.
Speaker 2:I always give the opportunity to choose a song. More precisely, I never choose a song Only if I know a person for a long time. This is the reason why people do not finish music school, because they are told what to do, how to do it. In principle, it makes sense for the diploma, but no one asks for a diploma in music, except if you are somewhere in the philharmonic. You don't always use these knowledge that you get in music school. Again, nothing against music school. Who needs music school and who needs something for themselves?
Speaker 2:They come to me and I, through coaching, through psychology watch, and half of them are people who were born to make music and they have trauma. They have trauma from childhood, with parents, with teachers or with friends. We sort it all out and I support them a lot. I get it, I trust them and I always tell the truth. I always say God, how well you sang, oh great.
Speaker 2:And sometimes people say and you always praise me. I say, well, of course I praise you Because today you sing better than yesterday, and I only have this in mind. I say God, super and super means that now you are super, and only on such super songs, on such songs. I only have this in mind. I say God super and super means that now you're super and only with such super can you build your path, your home, see what comes out. This is my concept and you don't have to. I'm against thinking you need to learn notes. If it's interesting, we'll learn notes, and the same goes for guitar, drums, piano production, if you really need to learn notes, but you don't have to read them.
Speaker 2:You just need to know them. The same goes for vocals. For me, vocals are important for a person to enjoy, because we always value the state in which the singer sings and we value honesty and, of course, experience. When a person can show his emotions and we work very, very hard on this because this is also my path the ability to express yourself is… Well, we do live sessions, that is, you can sing live and post such a video. We organize concerts for students and gym sessions. We don't organize any agency services yet. There are many agencies of gym sessions you can go. You need to get to know each other and do everything from the heart.
Speaker 1:You had some success stories. A student came to you, learned how to sing and she started singing very well and then she went somewhere to play and she, you can say, was successful, or he Do. You have such moments, success stories?
Speaker 2:In general. For me, the most successful story is a lot of my students. You have to be in the birthday of your new voice and for me, a successful story is when a person comes out in public at a concert. I cry with musicians and in her dreams are being broken. Well, you can say that we allow it. Maria Zbywajtse Zbywajtse.
Speaker 1:Zbywajtse. No, no, suryashka, you can say it, we allow it. I'm from Chernigov, you know I'm also from Ukraine.
Speaker 2:Zbywajtse. Oh, thank you, I can also speak Polish. I have such a porridge. You know German, english, polish porridge, ukrainian. So successful story is when a person came to me who is 30 or 20 years old and a dream came true she came on stage. What stage? That's another question. If a person wants to go on a big stage, it's a different question. If you want to go on a big stage, it's professional. But music is life, it's a manifestation, it's like breathing. There are people who were born, there is work, there is a family, there is music, or someone is dancing, writing pictures, and someone was born to sing or write songs. And it's important to understand, because this is your life, this is your manifestation. Without this, there will be no happiness.
Speaker 1:Can I ask you a question? Yes, in how many seconds can you say when a person has a cool voice or not cool voice, or you have to work with that voice.
Speaker 2:I adore it. I adore it. It's my. How many seconds for a cool voice? Well, first of all, what is a cool voice for you? Always, when a person comes to me and says how many hours do I need to sing? Well, well, I understand that a person has no goal, because what is good first of all? Secondly, for the first lesson, your attitude towards good changes For the second lesson even more. You understand that good is already different. You appreciate in your voice other things after the lesson and you understand how much there is left diamonds than beauty. And your beauty. It goes deep. Everyone has a hearing. It's very I. Let's do it this way.
Speaker 1:You have a hearing, I can hear you now, no, no, cool.
Speaker 2:I always say that I have no voice. I don't have a voice. I say what are you talking about? No, I mean something vocal. Everyone has a vocal voice. It's just that you need to be adequate. I'm not a model. You need to adequately understand what voice you have, what language you speak, how you grew up, what kind of family you have, and, honestly, what are my constraints, and be ready, have an intention to work on it. Well, some kind of goal right Get out of this state. Change. It helps a lot in life. Do you have a musical ear.
Speaker 1:I don't think so. You don't think, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Tell me like this Do you hear? You have a ear. You have a ear Because you repeated these notes point by point. The notes were clean, that is, you heard them by ear, you understood, you heard. The brain was like this once, once, once, and sent a message to the connection and you made the same note. And we don't need to figure it out, because you know what happens in our body. I don't like it To look at a person I don't know. I know we have patterns, we have habits and To learn To a grown person Is very, very easy Because we have experience.
Speaker 2:I work with metaphors. I work with some examples. They are very, sometimes funny, childish, but for a person who comes with such a request how many lessons, what program we don't agree. Well, they rarely come and I tell them look, you can just open everything in the second lesson or maybe in the tenth. And it depends on whether there is a wall between us or not, how you trust me, what are your beliefs, what are your beliefs? And in metaphors, I very well explain if a person is open, how to make a sound, because you already know, and in metaphors, in some examples, it is very easy to replace programs that do not let you sing, for example, or to show up. Well, for example, I will give you to sing. Or to express yourself, for example, I will give you a cool story.
Speaker 2:There is a concept of high and low notes. When a person sings high notes, they tighten and tighten. Why? Because we learned from childhood that high is there. Well, here it is. And to get something from height you have to pull right, and our body knows that you have to pull. Well, please. And we pull with the notes. And the notes are not there. The notes are just a vibration of sound. Right, air and vibration, air and vibration, air and vibration. And, knowing this, the person stops clenching. And then there are stories like… I remember, do you remember? The elevator broke down. You have to walk, and the body remembers everything as we went up and worked, worked to get the note to work. We immediately put these programs aside and then we go deeper.
Speaker 1:What inspires you to create music in the style of neo-soul and R&B?
Speaker 2:My heart beats in this rhythm and that's it. When I hear the first notes, I immediately go Shazam, spotify and I just know what voices, what rhythms, what singers are right there. They just inspire me. We lived in Munich and listened to the music of the artists who live here and they don't always go to Europe to perform. Now I have this opportunity to come to their concerts and even more, to meet the same fans as I do In Germany. Sabrina Klaudia this is my favorite singer. No one knows here the hall was singing her songs. God, I cried the whole concert. It's such a happiness to know that this artist, my favorite artist, has so many people who love him. It's very inspiring artist has so many people who love him. It inspires me a lot. Here I understood that my listeners are Not understood, but felt and believed Artists or just musicians who play in a trombone bar. They play everything, everything, just, and it's brilliant. And my concert what musicians were there? It's a dream when you have such a drummer an Afro-American you're like God. Thank you, it's very inspiring.
Speaker 1:In general, music came out of Africa, rock came out of Africa, it's just, billie made it very popular, so it's African Maybe.
Speaker 2:I was an African in that life because I was in Africa, felt at home. It's a different mission. In this life I have a mission as a Ukrainian is to unite, and here in Corona I had such an idea. I want to do soul, but in Ukrainian and English. I started writing in Ukrainian then and somehow it went.
Speaker 1:And now.
Speaker 2:I'm doing it in Ukrainian and English. Why not? Everyone sings in Spanish, French, Korean, Even. We all hear K-pop very popular.
Speaker 1:Yes, in Korea.
Speaker 2:Why not in Ukrainian Singing language? My guitarist always told me from Munich, tanya, sing something in Ukrainian After the concert. When we go, say, tanya, sing something in Ukrainian After a concert. When we go to a new place, sing something in Ukrainian, and that's it. And now I sing in Ukrainian. It's not easy, because when I sing in English I don't really feel these words. I feel them. They're my stories or stories that I see in life. But Ukrainian is touching my heart and sometimes it's hard to hold back from emotions. But it's cool, it gives life.
Speaker 1:Can I ask you, the same song that a person ažete tako zapitati? Tu samo písню яку людина, prosta людина яка слухає ту музику? Скажем ти, артист zробила цю музику. Ty, коли ty цю музику слухаєш, možda для teba bude чувство по-инакшему, а для drugej ludiny inakše чувство. I know I can listen to the same music with Olya and we have the same feelings for that music. And as an artist you have different feelings. Why do you have such feelings? Because you know what emotions were going through when you were making this music.
Speaker 2:Or is it working like that? Yes, these emotions that I feel on stage, it's because I wrote about myself, I remember, but I relive them again and work them out again. But this topic is very interesting. Listening to music. Of course, every person listens to music in their own way. It's very difficult for us to listen to music, for example, we just have a party right or some chill-out. We can't do that. I always hear what's playing. We're talking to you. I'm completely in our conversation, but I hear what's playing. And if it's my music, I'll completely in our conversation, but I can hear what is playing and if it's my music, I'll take it right away. Shazam, you always analyze what they sing. It's just a team in me, you know. It has such notes, partitions, logic in front of my eyes.
Speaker 1:He knows we listen to music.
Speaker 2:We know what the bass part is, what the chords are. I can hear that the singer is doing start telling you about love. I'll tell you. Listen, I fell in love and you feel it and maybe you'll feel sad and maybe you'll think what a happiness. I also dream about it and maybe you'll think, oh, it's like me with Masha and Olya will think that love she'll feel butterflies because she has some fresh relationships. You know.
Speaker 1:Yes, I have all different experiences, I know.
Speaker 2:Everyone has different experiences and music is such an instrument that can show you what is important to you now, what you can feel. Or something is not worked out. What can you feel? Is there something unworked psychological? What did you feel? Where did you feel? Maybe you want to go and you think I will go to the disco today. Maybe you didn't have enough of it. Of course, you need to understand what you listen to choose, but it's already a story.
Speaker 1:Now you know that a lot of Ukrainians came here. There are a lot of musicians here, different artists came here and they want to do what they did in Ukraine they sang, danced, mostly sang, because that's mostly your focus. Where should they start? What do you recommend? What advice would you give them? What to do?
Speaker 2:It always depends on what they want, what they allow themselves, what they are ready for, what ambitions they have. What do you think is the most important thing in your life? There are musicians who say, well, I want to do only my music, I don't want to do covers. On covers you can earn very good money, and here a musician can earn 50 pounds in the evening or he can earn a thousand. You need to understand what is the volume of energy in you. You know what are you capable of. If you want to earn a thousand, you start to understand where to go, what events to go to, who to meet.
Speaker 2:If you want something for your soul, then it's's another story. It's agencies or cover events or for your own music. The most important, I think, is to look for your own people who see in you a creative person who likes your music. You need to go to jam sessions and talk to them. Творчу людину яким подобаються твоя музыка. Треба выходити на джим-сешоны и розмовляти з ними Кожный день. Можна ходити кудись знайомитись, але ж можна ходити безкинечно. Так То есть, треба посылати свои демки. Десь треба выпускати песни, бо мы в Лондоне Менеджеры не сид. Because we are in London, managers Don't sit. They look who released what and who performed To show up.
Speaker 1:Can you give us some recommendations when you can do it? Recommendations.
Speaker 2:To do what?
Speaker 1:To send your songs, to go to parties. Where to go what recommendations do you give to Ukrainians when to go, because London is a big place. There are a lot of places here when to go to see them. What to do you said you had to talk.
Speaker 2:You can go to jam sessions.
Speaker 1:And where to look for them. Where can I find them?
Speaker 2:Your recommendations you know I have. I'll tell you I have a post.
Speaker 1:If you have a post, we can send a link to your post.
Speaker 2:Ah, great, look, On Monday there is a Color Factory Jam session, just awesome. There are so many cool musicians. They jam. You need to know how to improvise. Open stage for vocalists on Tuesday other days for all musicians are in Troy Bar. There is Ronnie Scott's. There are jam sessions. There are so many of them you just need to know where.
Speaker 1:But here Google works like this.
Speaker 2:I will send you, send me a message.
Speaker 1:I will send it to people who are interested, but it may be better to send it to your post so that people would subscribe to you. Know you, you could help. Plus, you also have a studio. Why did you name the studio 1000 Seasons? I myself was interested in 1000 Seasons. It doesn't look like it, but it sounds like a hotel for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, seasons. What is that моя фамилия? Сезон У моего человека Миль. Миль с французской це thousand. Моя фамилия с французской Сезон це seasons.
Speaker 1:Змею понял, Це классно, це мае сенс.
Speaker 2:Мае сенс, так Це наше имя, и нам дуже сподобалось, бо все сезоны важливы, знаешь. And we really liked it because all seasons are important. You know, there is a story. When you go to class, you leave your problems behind the class, or your inspiration, and I say always take with you everything that you have Sadness, sadness, fatigue. Take everything with you. We need it. You don't have a good mood today. I will survive, live with drama and you can sing about love. That is. It's the opposite. Everything is important. It's energy, it's not fake.
Speaker 1:I wanted to ask you such a question. I'm always curious why Ukrainians sing, even in Ukraine, even here, in English. I understand that English is an international language, but when Ukrainian artists sing in English as a person who knows English well it's very different. They make some accents and it doesn't feel like it's original. Why do they sing in Russian? They have their own accent. When Ukrainian artists sing in English, it bothers me a little. I don't want to listen to it. I don't know about you, but why do our Ukrainians sing?
Speaker 2:in English. It just so happened.
Speaker 1:I have a dream to do it.
Speaker 2:It's not just about music. It just so happened that English history has been giving us trends for a long time. It's a habit, but it makes sense. With the English language, the words went these funk, soul, everything plus minus Somehow. With the language, the styles are associated Genres, and so it seems to us well, it's a pattern. We understand how a solo can sound in English and we don't really understand Ukrainian. And it's such an art how to sing in Ukrainian to sound like English and at the same time you have to find something authentic.
Speaker 1:But still music that is sung in English, let's say the original, and then you change it to Ukrainian, it loses its… I don't know how to say it. Do you understand what I mean?
Speaker 2:Yes, yes. It's a different song.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's a different song, but it changes Ukrainian words. English words change too, feelings change too. What you say in English and what you say in Ukrainian sometimes it differs Of course it's the energy of the language.
Speaker 2:If you wrote something in Ukrainian, it will also be difficult to express in English. But I think it's all nonsense. It's our habit and our image. We just got used to the fact that the Ukrainian language is sung in funk.
Speaker 1:Have you ever had moments when you sing either in Ukrainian or English and someone else I was like you can sing in two languages, english and Ukrainian.
Speaker 2:In one song.
Speaker 1:Yes, because there are artists here in Britain who sing in English. They take a singer from another country, an Arab. You can say and he sings in Arabic. She sings in English.
Speaker 2:Cool. Well, that's what I want to do. That's great. I think it's great for Ukraine to do it now.
Speaker 1:Super, why?
Speaker 2:not. I really like to sing Ukrainian folk songs, hip-hop, soul. I like neo-soul, sexy. Maybe some people don't like it, but I do it from the bottom of my heart and I hope it sounds delicious, not like that.
Speaker 2:You know, in a rural way. And I have a cover of Tina Carole Vilna, she's so sexy. I felt it that way. It's authentic from the bottom of my heart. I feel it differently. And the material I'm an interpreter or, for example, I sing, imagine John Lennon funk. Everyone knows that it's such a strong song and my colleague wrote it with love, but I don't see it. It's such a song about war, peace. I say well and you sing it so cheerfully.
Speaker 2:I say well and you sing so cheerfully, I say well, and I want to tune a person to peace through fun, through funk. I see this song like that Everyone is alive there, everything is fine. Why can't I sing funk and take a blues? Such tragic stories were then in. People right, and they sang blues. Well, it's our kind of thing. When there's nothing to do, you start analyzing. You need to analyze only with one goal To learn and to broaden your vision. I think you know. I think Ukrainians have a different story.
Speaker 1:And when you talk about blues, blues came out. It was black people singing in the 70s, 60s and then it was because they were going through a hard time but they were going through and singing this music and for the whole American community, black people were doing this. Well, wonderful music. I like jazz when I go home. I don't know if it's so popular in Ukraine right now or is it just getting popular. I always say that to get people to listen to your music you need to have a good sense of humor.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it's so popular in Ukraine right now. I don't know if it's so popular in Ukraine right now. I don't know if it's so popular in Ukraine right now. I don't know if it's so popular in. Ukraine right now. I don't know if Ukrainians understand it. I don't know if it's still so popular in Ukraine, or is it popular?
Speaker 2:Or is it?
Speaker 1:gaining its popularity.
Speaker 2:I always say to enjoy ballet, you need to learn it a little. That is the same with blues and jazz. Learn a little. Well, if it's interesting, it's not necessary To appreciate to understand what he did, so's interesting. It's not necessary To appreciate to understand what he did so cool that everyone applauds applause. Well, you need to read, watch some podcasts on YouTube and understand what they sing about, where this idea comes from, what are the stars?
Speaker 1:in the jazz scene. Look, I want to go back a little bit, a little bit back. I want to tell you about your studio. You came here with your husband to Britain. You found an apartment. Thank God, you found an apartment that you can live in at the top and a studio downstairs. Okay, you found an apartment. How much did it cost you? We won't tell you, it's your secret. But you know London is a very expensive place.
Speaker 2:We pay a lot. We immediately took one floor. Then this apartment became….
Speaker 1:Did you already have money for this?
Speaker 2:I earned a lot of money before moving, but I still hired four people. You just start and you weren't afraid to open your own studio in London. I wasn't afraid, because I didn't even have a question of what else I could do. Studio to the London, you know, boy Alice, a boy, women, and I've been a little bit Anya a show, yes, she, more Robita, yeah, resume you, she. I could just be water Aleppo, katie, push next time on you too, money money to the water.
Speaker 2:Money to the water a bit too bad, invest a lot a year as a mule a show, and I understood that teaching is a value. It's something we can do very well. We can give other services and we have experience in this. There was no question. It's very scary. You don't understand what people are here, how to move forward. We are not businessmen. We have a lot of ideas, but we are flying a little bit. We are creative and it takes time. I always say this If it's scary, you need to change it for interest. Scary, scary, interesting. I was terribly interested in what it would look like. Better to do it than not right.
Speaker 2:You can just go back right away and there are no more ways back because you've decided and maybe I had enough strength. I had a lot of burnings and maybe I still have them. I worked every day, sometimes 12 hours, 12 lessons, 12 students, one-on-one every day. It's very difficult Very different people and to teach vocals it's you know. Every minute a person looks at you and you don't talk about some clear things which you understand, where to press, what note you are talking about what is happening in your body. It is difficult to adjust to a person, to understand, to talk, to help, to persuade, to help. This is a lot of energy, creativity, concentration, desire and love. I can't work. I just worked. I just can't my body and soul start to hurt. I always get involved. I always have empathy for a person. I adapt. I adapted over time. I adapted when I always took clients.
Speaker 1:That is, you just go Well because you wanted to become a professional and you are already a professional and if you want to be on that level and for people to turn to you because you understand you are a creative person from which studio? Creative people are very difficult because you have to know marketing. Marketing is very much. You have a lot of money, it's costs, but what are the costs? You need to think about design, how it looked for people so that people knew, looked at that banner and thought, aha, this banner is a studio where this studio can be. You know and address and they have social media and you can see their portfolio. You see the portfolio cool. I like it. I understand that she is Ukrainian cool. I also have friends who are Ukrainians. I will also tell them that I have a studio. You understand it's like a sarafan radio. But many people who open a business, even creative people, do not understand this.
Speaker 2:We did not understand this. It was on our radio.
Speaker 1:But how did people find you? Did you advertise? Or maybe because of the musicians you knew in Munich? You called them and said look, we opened this studio and we would like you to come here. How was it in general, how to to the audience.
Speaker 2:We did a target for a vocal school. I went out a lot, told about myself, about the school. How did you do it? What did you do? You go on a party on some networking, you agree on a concept. And then the Sarafan Radio. They already know me here a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yes, well, how do they know? Many people already know about you. I think they will praise you for knowing a lot. I know about you. I know about you very accidentally. I just came out of the hotel and saw Ukrainians. Glory to Ukraine, glory to the heroes. Where are you going? It's magic.
Speaker 2:My energy allowed you to do it. You have to believe in your work. I understand that it's all esoteric, but you have to believe in your work, you have to love it and you have to really understand. I want you to find out about me. Come out and tell me Marketing. We still have to work and work. In general, people say that you have a lot more than you can see on the website. Well, well, well, that is. We need a marketer. We're looking for one. Can I say something? We need a marketer.
Speaker 2:We need a person who will be fully involved in everything. Do you want to find a marketer?
Speaker 1:here or in.
Speaker 2:Ukraine.
Speaker 1:Where do you need a marketer? Here or in the city?
Speaker 2:I think here, Because the market's levers are very different. You need to understand how it works here. You need to go out and you need to do it with your soul, Because we have such a platform very cool. A person who understands this, he will see that we can make money. We can feel this success. We have a lot of resources, ideas, offices, tools and services.
Speaker 1:I will give you one recommendation. I will give you now on this podcast, people who know it.
Speaker 1:Many people know me. When I started to throw out small ruses Ruses about Ukrainians who make podcasts how you can throw it in audience and it explodes into the scene. You throw more advertising. Reels are very profitable. They work in Instagram, tiktok and Facebook. They are very, very cool and if you have Telegram stories, you can, because I have a premium and I throw, and a lot of people subscribe to me and they say where can I watch your podcasts? I say you can listen to them or watch them. I also recommend you, once a week, at least a small release.
Speaker 1:How did your session go? Someone wants to shoot you. You can shoot yourself there Because you can go there when you have time and it works and there you can write hashtags or YouTube shoots, also small, 60 seconds, and people come Every day, 200 people come to you. It's already public. People will be interested. I don't know who has a studio here from Ukrainians. I know another Ukrainian. He's a Christian, he's been here for a long time. He's a rapper, but you have a musical vocal school. Nobody shows it to Ukrainians. I get a lot of questions from Ukrainians. They say I have a child. I came with a child. The child learned this and that. In Ukraine she sang. Where can I go to sing or even do progress? And Ukrainians at the moment they are looking for their own.
Speaker 1:Why service? Maybe this language is also Bayerian. Why not speak Ukrainian? You've been there for more than two years. You can tell a lot. You've already told a lot of information. You said go to these open jazz clubs. How to look for information. You've already done it yourself and the child comes to you and says Stella, how can I do this? And you tell your mother you need to do this, your daughter has to do this, or your family has to do this and hang out here. Ukrainians need to go, not only to be in the Ukrainian community. Well, if you want to be in the Ukrainian community, it's your right, but you have to be friends, because if you want to grow in this country, you have to enter the British society and you have to go to the level you want. You have to improve your English.
Speaker 1:Even before this podcast, I told you you could have gone further, but you said no, I'd better open Vocal. I'll do it. And you opened it. You didn't just open it in London, you opened it in Munich and then came to London and you opened it. It was hard, right, because you didn't know the market, you didn't know business, but now you know a lot and maybe there are already some people who do it for you and you as a creative person. Creative people want to deal with their creativity, they don't want to deal with the ball halter.
Speaker 1:I like podcasts. I like people inviting you to tell your story, how you became successful, how you opened up, how you did it. I'm interested in your difficulties, how hard it was for you. Why? Because these are emotions. You instill emotions in me and these emotions sometimes we as Ukrainians forget them, we hide them or we go somewhere, or maybe we drink or do something else to forget these emotions. But these emotions need to be told because someone has these emotions and now that person is going through these emotions, maybe we don't want that person to do something stupid. You know she listens to your story and says, wow, Stella has this. I want to. I already know where she is. I listened to the podcast. I will come, I will watch, at least listen to you, and this is already inspiring. You would have come to the album and met you.
Speaker 2:I would not have come to the album and asked you about Ukrainians.
Speaker 1:But it also depends on me. I was interested, I'm interested in talking to Ukrainians. You said you need to have a desire, you need to have a fire.
Speaker 2:To maintain this contact. In London, you're like, hello, hello, oh, let's do something together and that's it. You always part ways. We understand that and we have people like that let's go to a restaurant together, let's go to a coffee shop. You always need to support contacts with people. It's a choice, it's a choice, it's time and it's well, you know. I think that you need to support, not only for business, not only with this intention. It's not a path to happiness. You need to contact these people who inspire you, who you like, because there are so many people here.
Speaker 1:Stella. I have two questions for you. Number one what did Ukraine teach you that Britain and Germany didn't teach?
Speaker 2:you. When I moved to Germany, I understood how cool it is to be in a big city like Kyiv and have this positive competition. When I studied at the Ostradno-Tsarkovsky School, I felt inspiration every day, because there is some Hilera singing, there is Mariah Carey, something happens, some castings, someone released a song there, cool. But when I moved, I understood the value even more. When there are many creative, successful people, you live. You see, oh, and I can do it too, and I want to go there too, and here let's do something together, a collaboration. It inspired me a lot in Kyiv. And also mentality, and also mentality. Well, of course, not in Germany, not in Britain, but in such mentality as we have with our Ukrainians.
Speaker 1:It's always soulful. What did Britain teach you, what did Germany and Ukraine teach you, or what do they teach you?
Speaker 2:When I moved to London, I realized that here you can be yourself and to open up to being yourself even deeper, to find in yourself these secrets. I I worked on this for two years and I will be all my life, of course, but it's very valuable. Here you can be yourself, do what you want, dress as you want. No one will think about you before going to bed. What did you say, how did you dance, how did you dress? No one. Everyone has so many things and it's very valuable. You meet, you're happy and you find the same people. And it's like in the cinema, these jazz clubs, musicals, dreams are realized here. I think they can.
Speaker 1:For someone here, for someone else. Stella, we are ending our podcast. What advice or word of wisdom can you give us from yourself For Ukrainians who are now on the territory of the Great Britain? From?
Speaker 2:yourself.
Speaker 1:If you can't answer this, I can ask you a second question.
Speaker 2:It's very interesting. I don't know what I'm talking about. It's not easy. You know what's not easy? Because how can I? I don't know how to move from the war.
Speaker 2:Thank God, I don't know how to move from the war. Thank God I don't know what to advise. Believe in the best, focus on keeping the opportunities. Of course, as many do, they see some resource in the transition and every day choose a state, because we are adults already. We are not given a state by our parents, nor by Santa Claus, and we are ourselves. Choose a dress or some costume, choose where you go, with what mood. Such an affirmation Thank you, costume. Выбирати kudy ty pidesh z jakim настроjem.
Speaker 1:Daka afirmația. Děkuji I ostatnje. Для наших слухачів I наших гладачей, які будут дивиться на ютубе, где вони тебе можут знайти, с тобою сконтруватися, connect с тобою и принимать більший уч and take more part in your studio.
Speaker 2:Plus 44, 7. You can find me on Instagram StellaSaisonMusic. You can find me on Instagram 1000SeasonsStudio or VocalSchoolBySt by Stella. This is my vocal page. Emails Stella's Season, iCloud 1000 Seasons. We have a site 1000 Seasons Studio, or in Google, Google Maps, just type 1000 Seasons Studio and there is our address. There are our address. There are also our services here. You can listen to music on all platforms Spotify, Apple Music and on YouTube. You can also find videos.
Speaker 1:And YouTube. What is your name on YouTube? Stella Season, Stella Season.
Speaker 2:Yes, now I didn't go out. I love a new single. And still in the next month we will release the song Kata Narkata, then Bozhevilna and many more. Thank you.
Speaker 1:Stella, thank you so much for being such a wonderful guest, our listeners and listeners. All the descriptions that Stella said will be below for you so that you can subscribe to. Stella, come do a collaboration and it's wonderful to support one big question in London. It will be below for you. Again, I want to thank you. Thank you for the Kosovo Talks Wonderful, wonderful.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:What are the last words in Ukrainian, which always say hold on, don't give up, just move forward. Glory to.
